One selfish driver may add minutes to the commute of others to shave seconds off of their commute. I would live here over LA any day of the week. Im in Southern CA but out by Palm Springs. My commute was on the east side of LA (Pomona to Pasadena), which meant it wasnt as bad, but if you were going to do Pasadena to Santa Monica, yeah, that could easily be two hours each way. I told myself my commute was just 3.5 hr of reading time that I normally wouldnt allow myself, so really, I was the lucky one (positivity and denial were really helpful too!) Its the big reason I havent bought a home, and possible never will (at least until I retire). I was used to doing drop off and pick up from day care and I couldnt do that anymore. Dont let him hold you back from reorganizing your life to make it more tolerable to you. Its far more difficult to live close to work in southern California, because residential neighborhoods just werent built close to business districts or manufacturing districts or wherever the jobs were because everyone had cars. Options: Bike to work, surely you can average 15mph and then you have the added benefit of cutting out the gym. I used to live in Northridge and worked in El Segundo, 405 all the way. You forgot all of the American citizens (from all over) with legal licenses who drive like utter shit. https://www.nytimes.com/2017/08/21/us/california-today-super-commutes-stockon.html, Link is in moderation, but the article is called California Today: The Rise of the Super Commuter. Check out audiobooks! Im job hunting currently and potential commutes is a huge concern. It gets tiring fast. While my to the office commute was short, I did travel alot and the drive to/from LAX was horrible. It costs you weekends when you dont go out and do much because youre so tired and just want to stay out of the car for once. I straight-up moved back to the Midwest because that wasnt how I wanted to spend my whole life, and it was a great decision. Can you take public transit part of the way (I know thats a long shot in LA)? Freeways everywhere, and theyre all jampacked. Not in LA, but I was held at gun point by a group of teens in Bushwick near a train stop walking home 2 years ago (if you google it a few reports will come up) and I still have slight PTSD from that. I dont think I would ever consider more than 45 minutes for any job. There are plenty of routes you can take in LA to get from point A to point B. But in my case, Id lose my mind if you told me to go sit on a train or a bus for two hours with strangers everywhere you turn, creeps leering at you, and no privacy at all. For example, I live on the Westside. I can sympathize. If that makes his commute longer, well, hes the one who thinks 2+ hours is no problem, so let him deal with it. My commute is two miles each way, and I walk it 95% of the time. I used to do Reading-Aldgate and it was one of factors that contributed to my looking for another job. I pay at the top of my rent price range to live closer to downtown because not only was my previous commute causing me anxiety and road rage, but it is just more worth it for me to have extra time on the weekdays to get things done and unwind. I now live in Central CA and have a 30 minute commutebut its 25 miles. Its so hard for me to give 100% at work when I can barely recharge to 50% by Wednesday which is not only unfair to me, but also unfair to the owners and my colleagues. My commute was anywhere from 45 minutes to 1 hr 30 mins. I get up at 7:00 am, leave home about 7:40 am and still reach the office about 8:00 am. We live in a not-overly-big Midwestern city, but unfortunately the placement of the home we own and his workplace means he has a fairly miserable drive. I think the conclusion usually is that life is too short to suffer and waste that kind of time. NYC had an incentive to grow *up*, where LA had more incentive to grow *out*. Music is a different matter, because I wont lose the plot if my mind drifts away for a bit. This was a really hard habit for me to break, but my quality of life got so much better when I just shrugged and said It is what it is about traffic and commuting. For me it is just too much time to spend in a car every day, and OP at 2 hours each way even if everybody else is doing it I think you really have the right to feel that way too! I walk home from work when its nice out (prefer not to walk there so I dont end up all sweaty when I arrive at the office if its hot out) and it is so wonderful and soothing. The distance between my house and my office was about 13 miles. Even stopping to drop kids off at daycare, my total commute whether I take the streets or the freeway is 15 minutes. How does things getting shittier in NYC make living in LA more tolerable? What was the most outrageously unwarranted bollocking you After the Hy-un-dai, sorry I mean, Hyun-dai, fiasco, what Press J to jump to the feed. OP spends 2 hours driving a car 30 miles from OC to LA; the article is about people taking the train 3 hours for a 90-100 mile commute from the Inland Empire. And you probably dont want to be driving since the parking costs downtown are redonk. What kind of life is that? Thats the kind of analysis you have to undertake to avoid a 2-hour commute in that part of SoCal. People are busy going about their own lives no matter whether youre in South Central or Wilshire Blvd. I would have it written into some sort of contract, if not you will soon find once restrictions are lifted that will turn into well we could do with you coming in on a Tuesday too to oh well this meeting is always on a Wednesday and you need to be here in person for it and we arent rescheduling and before long you will be doing it every day. I used to work in Century City which is less than 4 miles from my house. One way!). Waze does not work. The joke among stats nerds around here is that the problem isnt the mean, its the standard deviation. to 75 min. This does not sound like a sustainable schedule. 4) Look for a job is a completely different location with less traffic, Cool story. We weighed the options and decided wed rather have an awesome place to come home to rather than a bed in a bare room. That does seem excessive, especially given the distance. We are devastated in our office and yet, our site visitors from further south are like WTF, this isnt traffic. Have you considered buying a motorcycle, moped or bicycle? I wouldnt take a job with a long commute in traffic no matter HOW much it paid. All 6 lines get funneled into the same underground stretch of tunnel through the Mission and into downtown, so if one train breaks down, all the others get bogged down as well, and theres congestion in the tunnel just like there would be on a freeway. etc. Not that anyone cares but Im in staff housing again and my current commute is about four minutes walk. You really need to decide whether that is how you want to spend your life. It always took at least 45-60 minutes. If youre interested in the topic, theres a fantastic book called Traffic: Why We Drive the Way We Do (and What It Says About Us) by Tom Vanderbilt. The difference was really that my commute usually had just a quick moment of traffic right by my office (government office surrounded by lots of other government offices, with thousands of people all leaving at the same time), and his was about 20 miles closer, but stop and go the whole way! Yeah, I already do the gym thing. Ill never go back to the stress of traffic jam commuting. However, realistically, I might not get what I want. I used to commute longer and it drove me nuts because, inevitably, pretty much every Friday night on the way home, there would be an accident. And now that I have a 20-25 minute commute 3 days a week (telework two days a week), I dont think I could go back. This is the price of living and working in Silicon Valley. Theres a radio sketch show That Mitchell and Webb Sound, his autobiography Back Story and a radio panel show called The Unbelievable Truth. I was excited if it only took 1.5 hrs. 91 to 605 to 7th st. This move added 15-20 minutes each way to our commutes, but it cut our rent in half and got us a bigger apartment. Good luck! In bed by 9-10PM If I change jobs again, I probably wont accept anything less. I have a 30-35 minute commute and that is plenty long enough. Hes pretty much resigned to the fact that hes going to have a commute wherever he lands. It has a lot of stops and is fairly well fleshed out (compared to the T in Boston, which Im used to). I always changed the subject when people got bug-eyed about my commute time or complained about an accident. 45-60 min is way more common. 30 miles is very far for LA commuters. It just doesnt make sense for me to move closer to LA at all. He is 3.5 years old and never has accidents on these days (although he is ready to go out as soon as I get home). 2 hours isnt normal, but its not unusual. my employee doesnt want to come to work when it snows. But at night traffic honestly doesnt clear up till like 7:30-8 pm here which is an hour before my bed time. My work allows me to flex my hours around my commute so that I never have to deal with rush hour. When I lived in SF, the 45-minute ride from my apartment into downtown was already pushing it for me. This is another challenge when the peak of rush hour doesnt actually end. It took over two hours both ways. I have a few bites for closer jobs already so Im keeping my fingers crossed. I drove through 6 school zones. LA math: 4 blocks closer = $100K more -30 minutes of your life back every day x 365 = sanity-debt. So Cal native yup, 2 hours can be totally normal. needs and desires, not really about whats normal. But I will say that routinely taking 2 hours to go only 30 miles is unusual sometimes, sure, but 4 days out of 5 iskind of whacked. My commute from my bed to my desk is 3 minutes. I beg to differ. The only faster routes are toll roads, and those add up. Here in California, I recently (2.5 months ago) accepted a new job as an EA for a great company thats about 30 miles away. The city of LA is a sprawling behemoth. Ive just started my first office job - any dos and donts? It is GLORIOUS. Ive lived in the greater LA area my entire life traveling from the eastern edges of the county westward into LA and a 2-3 hour drive into the downtown area has always been the normal in my experience. Yeah, I honestly do not want to move into LA at all (I left NYC cause I was tired of the city struggle/high rents) and love where I live. OP, I saw youre putting in notice good luck! Id love to know more about working/living there. After 2 hours of bumper to bumper traffic, 45 minutes of highway speeds is amazing and were grateful. ), and I will have some time for me again. I live in East CoCo County and drive into the Alameda Co. Tri Valley area and it takes me almost 90 minutes one way to drive between 36-40 miles. It was the extra push I needed to turn down a position that probably would have made me miserable. http://www.mrmoneymustache.com/2011/10/06/the-true-cost-of-commuting/, https://www.askamanager.org/2016/03/open-thread-march-18-19-2016.html, http://www.latimes.com/local/california/la-me-lopez-echo-park-traffic-20180404-story.html, https://www.census.gov/content/dam/Census/library/working-papers/2013/demo/SEHSD-WP2013-03.pdf, https://www.nytimes.com/2017/08/21/us/california-today-super-commutes-stockon.html, my employee asked a colleague to help her fake a deal, Im constantly interrupted when I need to focus, and more. 2 hours is bad and I wouldnt call it normal. I would factor in both the time of the commute and the variability. And its not unusual for our area, but I understand why some folks would try desperately to avoid it. I think the issue is that you dont have a friend circle yet. Story with Steve Martin, the movie itself is stupid, but the part where he drives to work is hilarious because its so true. It means that you basically live to work during the week. Some of those areas are now considered commutable, but theyre not considered to be part of the Bay Area proper. I dont see it as a red flag, I see it as an extremely valuable data point that he is providing her, namely this is part of what it means to live here. She needs facts in order to plan her life in a way that is maximally satisfying to her. 55-1 hour 15. stop and go. Totally worth it to me. I remember interviewing in the Bay Area about seven years ago, and scouting potential living situations on the Peninsula, and found the worlds most amazing cottage in Pacifica. Could easily be an hour. It is a brutal commute. If the commute turns out to be terrible, look into renting a room at someone's apartment or house (or even in a nearby extended day or hotel, if that's financially feasible). When I was commuting 45 minutes on my bike, even in wintry conditions, I had other young and healthy friends who said I dont understand how you can bike that far, I would never but ultimately I enjoyed it. The average commute in the U.S. is 26 minutes, according to Census data. So for all of the people saying its normal, it may not be abnormal, but its also not particularly common. Thats actually why I stopped taking public transit and started biking in the first place. My longest was 2 hours one way but I worked 24 hour shifts 8 times a month so it not as awful as it could have been. I used to do a similar commute. Prospect, for those who know the area). Ive lived in L.A. all my life. The lane changes are especially frustrating and bottlenecking, especially when youve got lots of trucks on the road (e.g., the I-5/110 junction). I always walk him before I leave and immediately when I get home. My sister commutes from Ogden to Salt Lake. 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