- Led Zeppelin, 10 Years Gone. Worked well enough for me to pass the test. Standard Tapers Two-piece with two tips, bag and aluminum tube Price : $1099 Custom Tapers Two-piece with two tips, bag and aluminum tube Price : $1199 - $1399 If you 'hide' columns you can then compare and easily see differences in any combination of selected rod tapers. There are many ways to skin this cat. What you have done is show the slope to the tip to butt. (Robin Haywood). This rod has some meat in the butt section and seems to mend a fair bit of line with ease. However, a straight line taper will create a rod in which the angle of deflection will increase from the butt to the tip at linear (constant)rate. We now have solid parameters around which to modify, to refine rod design characteristics. The tip tapers are the only redeeming feature of his designs, and now you tell me they were not deliberate, I'll burn my copy of "The Book" immediately, at least I shall be spared tolerating toadying references to "Garry" when ever (very seldom, in fact) I refer to it! I have built Russ' version, which I believe was posted yesterday, and I love it. is obviously your opinion, which you are entitled to. I would agree that one system is not all encompassing and I agree with the selection of evaluating criteria you outlined. (Tim Pembroke), I wasn't aware of that but now that I've been told it does make perfect sense. If you read this Bob, I would be interested to know how you choose your tip dimension and rise? . The taper on David Ray's site is an 861711D. 80 0.296 121171 Narrow steam but very exposed and windy thus needing a #5 line? The top snake guide on the butt has a bit of a bend to it. 35 0.1695 Lyle Dickerson (Michigan) CFRF Tapers Tapers from Classic Fly Rod Forum The links below are to "classic" tapers posted to the Classic Fly Rod Forum (http://classicflyrodforum.com) in the Taper Exchange subforum. 6-strip Tonkin bamboo (Al Baldauski). Interesting thoughts on line weight and the first 20", I will have to roll that one around in my head for awhile. 20 .245 .130 0.256 by Lee Koch 06/12/16 21:18, Post by avyoung 06/17/16 04:49, Post (Steve Weiss), That opens up another question. Bogart Classic Wet Fly Rod 8.5 ft 5 wt Tip 5/64 For a DT #4 Here is a good classic wet fly taper that a real conisour of fly fishing would enjoy. (If memory serves me right Tony Young sells step down ferrules for Dickerson rods, so you may try that. I could probably improve just by buying a new cheap file.. BTW, Paul, different strokes for different folks. Is there anyone who could help us finding the right data conserning the taper. They would be, Heavy butt section, Light butt section, heavy tip, light tip, Parabolic (heavy in the middle) and the hinge (light in the middle). 75 0.2855 The point here being, if we can define areas along the straight line or linier taper. (Will Price), Is not 7'6'' a bit short for a five weight? 'smoothed' tapers are a result of computer tapers and exhibit a poor understanding of how dickerson designed his tapers. Except that they are US rated and thus #5's! 0.088 Of course a SLT is never a SLT unless it's a one piece no Varnish & Guides rod, once we add things we change the effective taper. 7 wt 0.0790 0.278 (Robin Haywood), Is 8'4" a bit long for a 4 wt.? I will be bringing it to Korea next trip to go for trout here in the eastern mountains. A lot goes into crafting a bamboo fly rod and here you can learn more about our approach. 35 0.162 166451 The stepdown in the female is from a 14/64 ID where the ferrule goes over the bamboo to 12/64 ID where it accepts the male slide. The hatch did not materialize and the fish did not rise, which gave me time to think of such things. I have looked on the Rodmakers site under tapers and it is not listed. Its the old problem, everyone wants to tell us what they think the answer is, but they never want to tell us why in terms unequivocal and universal! Browse our collection of vintage fly boxes and wallets. There are no great tapers and nobody invented anything. I hope this is for step down ferrule. (Robin Haywood). Unknown, so I would hesitate to speculate. As Lou points out, it is nicest with the kind of ferrule Dickerson made himself. Only trouble with the rod is that there aren't many places in Md. Any rod with a straight taper under load will feel to a greater or lesser extent, unnecessarily heavy in the tip and too soft in the butt. Now you have a rod in the length, line weight and number of section you want. (Mark Dyba), Heh, nothing wrong with that. .212 is way too big for a 13/64, it's well into the 14/64 fit range. (Jimmy Chang), I have made rods using both tapers. Stress curves are the only tool I have seen that give you a visual image of exactly what you have changed and the consequences of that action. I sold one to a co-worker who is a streamer guy and he fishes it with a full sinking 5 wt line and is happy with it. This is one of those bio-feedback things you must be self taught IMHO. The idea is that the butt must not bend, and when it does its only at the very end, if it bends further down then the height of the line above the ground is dramatically reduced and thus fully one half of the "High speed high line" proposition is not met. . 15 .128 .278 40 0.184 (John Channer). Some rods might in fact be best with a line weight that falls between two designated ones eg. (If memory serves me right Tony Young sells step down ferrules for Dickerson rods, so you may try that.) CANE RODS Tips & Tapers by Ray Gould has another version that averages out the step down. Fly Fishing Supplies & Gear. If you look at the attached graph you will see that my Compensated Straight Line Taper does indeed have a Straight Horizontal Stress Curve at 20 feet of line outside the tiptop. A straight line taper could be arbitrary, but in this case it is very specific to line weight. I do not rule out the possibility of owning a Lyle Dickerson rod one day but, may I ask, if you own or were having a rod made today with a Dickerson taper, If you want a Dickerson - John Pickard is your best choice. Latterly, they considered that a fiberglass butt section would solve all their troubles. I will let Bob speak to the numbers and how they were derived. (Chris Obuchowski). It's a 7 wt too but being a little shorter is easier on the arm and shoulder due to the shorter lever arm length. I am sure that the step-downs are important in copying the taper design exactly. An 861711 would be an 8 1/2' three piece, with the butt-to-mid ferrule being a size 17, and the mid-to-tip ferrule being a size 11. 20 .140 .298 I always use Super Z, but I am not really into creating exact reproductions. Its just simply to do with maximum stiffness (IE minimum deflection) for a given material weight. Yes. 0.138 The American Museum of Fly Fishing Collection In terms of rod design I think that it is really worthwhile considering as many design approaches as possible when trying to design and assess tapers. 0.214 Jim Schaaf. 8 wt 0.0830 Then the part of the ferrule that fits on the bamboo inside the male slide 'stepped down' to .187" ID, or 12/64. Summers Bamboo Fly Rods Company Vom Hofe Reels Young Winston Bob Summers has built and repaired quality bamboo fly rods since 1956. Perhaps it's a European thing to like fast action rods ? (Greg Reeves), TipsHome - What'sNew - Tips - Articles - Tutorials - Contraptions - Contributors - Search Site - ContactUs - TaperArchives So the data exists both ways in the spreadsheet. 0.111 If I were to make it I would use .040 bring the 80" value to .328, this is enough to stop all the rod action. I think we can say that adding more material to a tip section would produce more power and reducing material on the tip section will increase accuracy and delicacy of fly presentation. Though the course may change sometimes, rivers always reach the sea. You can draw a straight line between the tip and the butt of any taper. It has a butt swell of about .070 also. Yes you do have the seemingly limitless variation of moving the point or points and amount of material added or removed along the rod length. (four piece) carbon fiber fly rod blank $85.00 13' 7/8wt. 90 0.296 157251. I beef up the last 3 inches of the tip to fit the 14/64 male ferrule. On a theoretical straight line or linear taper the rod would load progressively down to the handle. Pickard is the Dickerson rod maker these days. If you want to see the justification for compound tapers look at the design of the Eiffel tower or any electricity pylon. Dickerson 8015 Guide Special, 2607 - 5. Design notes: Dennis Higham's 861711 found in David Ray's taper archive is also designated a 'D' model. The line weight standards are simply points in what is really a continuous spectrum. All through this process you must be aware of the stress curves as well, you don't want to make changes that will cause a rod to fail. 95 0.3435 (Tom Bowden). Some people call them "step-down" but it is worth noting that the top and the bottom openings of his ferrules are usually the same diameter; the "step" across the ferrule occurred in the bamboo, not the metal. It is my belief that there are only seven truly different tapers available as a base to design rods from. If you want the rod to have the same characteristics as before the change, the you must add some cane to the mid/butt of the rod to maintain the balance that was there before. John Pickard only way to go. You can vary the slope to get the "speed" you want (Garrison's are .013/5"; a B-9 .015/5"; and I've built them as fast as .018/5"). Everything is subjective, but for me Morten, the 1949 version of the 8013 listed in the Lovely Reed is the best version of this taper. (Timothy Troester). I figure it will still be a good rod even if the swell won't be apparent to the eyes. You bring up a question I have been trying to work through for some time. That's not a lot to ask is it? This board is for discussing the repair and restoration of bamboo fly rods, makers discussion and construction techniques relating to same. Dickerson 801611-D - 8ft 3pc 7wt Posted by Jeremy Gray, Aug 30, 2000. I would specifically urge all to look at the graphs. That's the "raw cane" numbers. Only lost 1/2 inch in rod length. (Steve Weiss), Good idea, Steven, but you would have get in line behind me and one of my Garrisons. As you know line weight do vary so maybe your 8 wt is my 7 wt, or something like that? If you look at the individual changes every five inches, no they are not always .014, but the mean and mode are .014". The taper is designed for trout fishing. Chris acquired one shortly thereafter. The reason I also advise using stress curves is that when you make changes, add or remove bamboo, you also effect the rest of the rod. 2023 Spinoza Rod Company. he then concludes with a diabolical smile. (Steve Weiss), That's the rub isn't it? I've built this one which was posted to the rodmaker's listserv years ago. Lyle Dickerson (Michigan) 6-strip Tonkin bamboo Dickerson was a self-taught rodmaker who designed his own rod-milling and planing equipment. Pt 0 is the butt side of the strips. But you also have the opportunity to add or remove material any ware alone the length of that rod and doing so will have an taper specific effect on the casting/fishing characteristics of the rod. Because of subjective issues like feel and personal prejudices, not to mention fashion, we "adjust" this a bit in fishing rods. In fact, I used this taper, hollow built, when taking the FFF casting certification test. 0.153 30 0.151 166917 This is the second invitation to fish Michigan, and I thank you sincerely for it. At the Grayling gathering, Bill Harms gave a presentation of Marinaro's approach to rod design. I measured the rod after seeing David Ray's posting of an 861711 in his taper library that is accessed from Hexrod. (Mark Wendt), At least according to Jack Howell's measured tapers in "The Lovely Reed". In the original Ritz conception the rod, or the taper, was the tip. Ephemera, empherma and Ephemerella.. Photos, paintings, written stories and talents. 0.360 (Tim Pembroke). I have a chart of the dimensions at home, if you need a copy email me off list. Typically it is a heavy tip section combined with a light butt section. I like Dickerson's fast action, but I have not had a chance to try every rod Jim Payne made. I have also noticed the mention of a Dickerson 8014GS. 5 wt 0.0720 by oldfishbrain 06/19/16 10:39, Post (Paul Blakley), I think a 7'6'' rod is short for any line weight. Tell me about it please. I'm just curious if you have a procedure to do this compensation on the taper itself or if you do this by stress calculation methods? 70 0.271 I fish mostly Michigan streams where you are wading the stream casting to the edges, and casting to rising fish wherever you are lucky enough to find them. This gives a quick, accurate impression as to what type of taper the rod is made from (straight, parabolic, compound, etc.) Dickerson Rods. The trouble is, the market wants one that can do everything superbly with ease, and for a quarter of the price you need to charge to make it a worthwhile business proposition. Can someone email me the taper or point me in the right direction? If you are looking for a Dickerson rod or have one that you would like to sell please contact us. They did not understand that a slow taper pole will bend near the point of grip under stress, whereas a fast taper will bend increasingly towards the tip as the rate of taper increases. Obviously this has to be judicious, as there comes a point where the taper tends more towards an adjacent standard line weight. 5 .326 .168 If you want a rod that feels like a SLT then you must compensate for the ferrules and varnish and guides by adding the proper amount of bamboo at the correct points on the taper. On Corrib I used an 8'8''#4 nearly all the time, in fact I designed it for the job. 35 .186 .326 13/12. 65 0.248 134403 But more relevant and to the point, I bought a single tip Dickerson 7613 from John and he recently provided me with a second tip from pre-embargo cane and original Dickerson hardware, and the action is a dead ringer for the original Dickerson 7613. To accomplish this I have added bamboo to compensate for the ferrule and the Varnish & Guides.. ), Then as it was, then again it will be. The taper I used was from "The Lovely Reed." 1 2 3 Hi, I am considdering letting my local builder make me copy of a Dickerson rod, after all the positive notes on his rods I have read here. In the hands of a good caster, this taper will make a fly line do things that amaze. Click here to directly compare the action of the 5 weight tapers marked with an asterisk ( * ) below. The rod I measured generally has 3/3 node spacing with the exception of two nodes falling right next to each other. (Greg Reeves). I'm off to the antipodes next year, and I'm hoping that the 7'6'' #5 that should be a #4 will go with me. The 7613 Golden Witch version, a 6 wt, has a somewhat softer tip than the 8013 getting stronger toward the lower tip. Since it was a know Dickerson Taper and not a myth I set out to recreate how I think Lyle would of done it and it came out sweet. Measure over original varnish. To all of them and their contemporaries we are grateful . Dickerson 8615 - 8.5ft 2pc 7wt Posted by Gary Lohkamp,15 Jan 1997. 4.6 ounces. I can always build another and I'm sure I will. Help from forum members would be welcomed. The other point is that in the case of, for want of a better word, 'non-extreme' rods, I believe that what happens in the top 20" is the primary determinant of the line weight. If you were to design rods using a visual representation of it's deflection then deviation from a straight line doesn't matter. I Have commented additionally, if trivially in a private post on the other points. )really love this taper. At Headwaters Bamboo Rod Company we build our rods based on proven "historical" tapers, meaning that the tapers we use were designed by Twentieth Century bamboo fly rod craftsmen. This rod belonged to rodbuilder Tim Bedford. 60 0.231 142296 The '51 is a bit softer. Is there a classic taper that roll casts better any others? You don't find a need for a 7'6" 5wt on your streams. the all-around trout rod out here in the Western US. by avyoung 06/12/16 21:15, Post 0.232 This is, of course, wildly unsatisfactory, but all attempts to reduce the problem seem to last for only a short time. It also is fine on smaller streams. Following tests I no longer cook UHU. Most of the ones I have made and sold are the PHY Perfectionist taper. If you add bamboo the the tip of the rod, you have changed its mass (MOI/MOE) relative to what it was. And why not? Variations below this point have more to do with the character of the rod than the line weight. Users can select the appropriate Morgan Handmill Cutter to match the geometry including both the 60.5 and 61.5 degree cutters for hex rods. Deduct 0.006 from butt, 0.004 from tip. My question is, as I plan for my next rod, are these the same rod or is there a difference? Interests: Building bamboo fly rods (occasionally), fly fishing for trout. Nowadays, some guys machine ferrules out of bar stock, and they have a reasonable way to make the openings different sizes on the top and bottom. I think of it as an 8013G. The stepdown in the male is from a 14/64 ID where the ferrule initially goes over the bamboo and steps down to 12/64 ID for the bamboo inside of the male slide. The last tip measurement (that goes into the male ferrule) is .204. And, after you "get used to it" you will fall in love with this rod taper. (Reed Guice). Garrison's tapers may have been all right in his day, for the equipment and applications he was designing for, i.e. No question my friend John Pickard is the way to go for a Dickerson reproduction. The 1952 Dickerson is similar to the GW except it's a 5/6 wt. I would describe the rod action as very powerful, as you would expect from most Dickersons. Take a virtual tour of our terminal and view our campus map. The resulting rod won't know the difference and neither will you when you cast it. by Aransas.clarks 05/09/09 02:49, Post Used but very good serviceable condition. My intention is not to criticize you, but to try to reveal the "big picture" when looking at tapers and stress curves. Welcome to the Taper Archives; The data on this page reflects the work of generations of dedicated rodmakers. And well worth the little time it takes to execute. One of my favorite rods is a linear taper with a "slope" of .290/100". Dickerson Rods Notes On Rods and Models Rod Features Rod Bags & Tubes Rod Markings and Script Buyer/Collector Beware Dickerson Articles About The Model Profiles Dickerson 761510 Dickerson 8014 Guide The Tom Clark Collection Anecdotes & Unseen Photos Dickerson Guide Series The Earliest Dickerson What Are The Chances? It looked fairly thin. I really must stir myself to come and fish them, it's time that's the enemy. We're committed to providing a safe, comfortable environment for our travelers. in practice however, there is little point in going below 7'6'', really. Sorry! 0.369 (Al Baldauski). Here are the tapers of the Dickerson 8014GS from the rod Jeff Fultz mic'ed and from Banjo's rod, since I had several requests both on and off list, I'll post here so anyone who wants them can save them. The Dickerson step down ferrule concept I need to know. . $ 1950us w/two tips, DICKERSON 7012 - 7' 2/2 - 4wt- honey colored - medium action, wonderful 4wt$ 1950us w/two tips. Obviously, custom tapers take a little longer to develop and build. by LeeO 05/26/17 07:47, Post He can correct this if he is still hanging around. The point is this: a straight taper only leads to a flat stress curve, as you say, UNDER THE RIGHT CONDITIONS. 0.220 An 8014, would be an 8' two piece, with a size 14 ferrule amidships. I think you are being a tad myopic, if you can't see that .016, .014, and .015 AVERAGE OUT to equal .014". Actually I feel an increase of .030 would be sufficient. I like Paynes too! I always encourage customers to try before they buy. This is the equivalent of a Powell B-8.70, a bit slower than the Powell B-9. I do find that I am using much shorter rods than I did, I think its the American influence of this Listserv! that'd be super! In case you didn't get the taper before, here it is: 0.066 If you would like to give Michigan a try, let me know. Except for where the swell begins, the butts are similar as well. Casting 20 feet of 5wt line the stress curve is flat. Measurements under the handle are obviously estimates. Thursday - Saturday, 10am to 4pm. We are typically roll casting about five yards of line at very small fish, so all things can be subjugate to that. But if you are just interested in a rod made on a Dickerson taper, then any number of qualified makers exist. But nobody has a right to ask me to share it. He took the first step to improving them, inadvertently, you say, by fining down the tips. (Lew) Parks. Pt Butt Tip I thought it was in there, but I didn't have the link, and the CD I got from Lowell is at home. (Bret Reiter), I call this one a seven too. and .360@45. Ralph Tuttle did the actual spreadsheet work. 5 0.0825 Some good stuff here. Find great quality fly fishing rods at an affordable price that fits any budget. I like to look at the taper itself and how it compares to a straight line taper, the stress curve, the tip deflection under loading, the shape the rod assumes under maximum loading, the rod weight and the center of gravity. Station Diameter But if you decide to tell the world that this is therefore the right way to design a fishing rod then I'm going to disagree with you! I have had my rod alongside an original and except for mine being new they were identical. (Will Price), I have noticed several folks mention the Dickerson 8014. 0.102 It made a fine rod, but you have to smooth out the taper leading into and out of the 45 and 50" stations as the rod was designed for a step down ferrule. Dies are not so easy to make that he would have probably have made an entire offset set. 0.232 I hope this helps you out some, they are actually all nice rods, but as I said there is a little different in line sizes. That his tapers could be surpassed by todays standards? I would argue that the variances are due to machine error, rather than deliberate (consider that you are tapering the strips by running them thru a glorified router, excuse me milling machine, using a worn wooden pattern board running over metal rollers, to determine the taper. Get information on services and amenities, security protocols, health and safety measures, and more. Taxes and shipping calculated at checkout, Browse our bamboo fly rods in stock and available now, Browse our collection of reels in stock and available now. 0.266 Just a topic to ponder on these slow summer days. Using too small a ferrule may be a factor. If so, which would work best as an all-around rod for lakes/ponds and steelhead/salmon? I have never seen an actual inch by inch measure and measure for ferrules listed that I felt was more reliable than this. But all right is not a euphemism for excellent. Post Made by Top Ten Tapers in Twinsburg, Ohio. 0.278 Good luck. I will suggest that rodmakers as a whole are not (especially the "classics" who were trying to make a living by banging out rods), but also that minor variances of a few thousandths occurring at random do not have a large impact on the rod actions as a whole. by ShenRods 05/08/09 01:54, Post These get assimilated quite directly into stress curve approach. 2023 American Museum Of Fly Fishing. 25 .232 .115 (Bob Norwood). .288@30 All rights reserved. 4 wt 0.0680 I am assuming this is an unvarnished rod. It is, literally, the shape of the rod itself and determines how . ever wonder why all those 10 1/2/64 Heddons broke at the female ferrule? by alpom 05/08/09 03:35, Post (Harry Boyd). Hardy Fly Fishing Rod Trout Fishing Rods & Poles 8 Guides, Hardy Fly Reel Trout Fishing Reels, Hardy Trout Fishing Rods & Poles, 35 .207 .086 Don't leave us hangin' here with a sniper shot and leave ;-) (Mark Wendt), Truth be known, I prefer Payne to Dickerson. It is truely a wet fly action - great for those soft hacles. They look very representative to what I have seen. 10 0.101 154505 0.360 (Jay Hake). (Robin Haywood). Lyle Dickerson Spurred into rodmaking by losing his job in the great depression, Lyle Dickerson would go on to become one of the masters of the craft. by avyoung 06/12/16 18:13, Post Its definitely a bigger water rod that the 7613. This rod consists of medium tempered cane constructed in a 3x3 node pattern with Dickerson tan wraps and black tipping. I'm satisfied with my bamboo fly rod, even though the female metal Ferrule opening was a little big and the male ferrule on the second section would slip out after a few cast. The thickness of varnish of course was just our guess. Regarding the similarities and differences between the 7'6" and 8' Dickerson's. All he needed to do was speed up the butts, preferably with a concave taper form, and he would really have been cooking with gas! 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