fighting the doctor without lohse

So. after a lot of frustration, I made a mod that would generate me a chest full with level 25 gear, to see if I can win this fight (lol) and still got wrecked having lots of armor after 30 mins. But ofc the cheese works in many ways. I actually did the opposite, keep all characters in that room toward the back and turn his office into a fiery pit of hell. (use a high dmg spell / attack to get his armor down and then CC him). along came polly salsa club. After they're gone it's easy to just stunlock BBEG to death. Once the Doctor is dead, speaking to Lohse at this point will cause her to rejoice at finally being free, and you can listen to her sing a special song. This will make his minions out of the fight so i can fight only him in that room. The Doctor will waste a couple turns summoning minions and trying to start the possession spell too, so it gives you time to setup. . Bummer, dude! The Doctor has Nurses around his mansion, we need to take them out before fighting the Doctor. I took out the doorman and the 2 nurses first. It has an emphasis on player direction, allowing you to customize your character right down to their backstory. Will you be able to stop him? He will not teleport back. If you didn't snuff out the final thousands of candles, he will not be weakened. One of them will be Jahan, captured because he underestimated the Doctor. I made a mess of it so have to restart the fight - three dead comrades behind the first nurse's desk that can't be seen to resurrect them with the doctor standing between them and the door. On the other hand, if you killed the Advocate you will be ambushed at the same place by said citizens, revealing themselves as Nemesis demons. As Lohse you can accept his blood bargain, so he becomes Divinity of the Dark and you become Divinity of the Light. BTW, since i attacked first, doctor instantly transformed into Adramahlihk (but is still weak, didnt increase his HP or armor). an extra 280k coins i did not need, but hey, an exploit is an exploit. He wasted his first turn to aproach Lohse, wasted second turn to cast some AOE and approach Lohse again as she retreated. Either go back to front door and separate nurses or go straight to doctor to set up and kill everything however you want. * Lohse will leave your party and you will have to fight with her, but do not worry, she will rejoin your party after the fight. Very easy after that. " Then go to that pyramid and you'll be in his basement. Later you can pick up the nurses that have almost no armour and have to walk there first. My Lohse still got charmed after teleported to the hall of echoes. Came out again. .FIYolDqalszTnjjNfThfT{max-width:256px;white-space:normal;text-align:center} This can actually be used to great effect, since Adramahlikh wastes his turn each time by channelling the demonic possession spell. He is not attackable until then, however can be teleported during dialogue. Find and talk to the elf named Saheila at Caverns. This fight is trivial if you use the tea and buy the resistance potions you don't want him to use beforehand. The Doctor has a scripted 10,000 Initiative value making it impoossible to go ahead of. If you don't have at least two of the three then i'm afraid battle will be tough. But for the Doctor we used ruptured tendons and ran away and hide behind a pillar, just far enough for him to follow. I think that might have forgoten how to play, or this fight is really difficult, like many broken things in this game. The catch is that his attacks will heal him, so one might want to lower his health with AoE spells so that he can be easily killed and/or have Skin Graft handy for nuking after the charm wears out.I BELIEVE but am not sure this also breaks Lohse's possession - it might simply reset or delay it. 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Finally, we got rid of his physical armor and then turned him into a chicken. If someone has another option it will be very appreciated. Reddit and its partners use cookies and similar technologies to provide you with a better experience. Loot the area and leave. SHARE. This way it is quite doable to survive his fire attacks and kill all his minions. Just summoned two champion incarnates and beat the crap out of everyone. Best combo and team!! Strip the Doctors armor using Overpower, after that use Reactive Armor to deal the highest amount of damage (care for your party, it will do massive damage to everyone on the effect area). He doesn't seem to be able to walk into that room, or he is also unwilling to walk through the fire. I don't know what I did wrong but after killing Isbeil and accepting doctor invitation there was no Malady waiting for me at Black House. And for some reason he will only be focusing on her all the time without even considering other parties. 19,400 XP for speaking to Jahan before completing the quest. Twitter. the messager gives good xp treats(about 70k in DE), all you need is trapping him with chests or sleeprolls. As far as I can tell, you only meet Malady (who takes you to the doctors pocket dimension) as well as Jahan in jail if you have Lohse in your party. If you refuse, the doctor will kill your main character, and you will have to defeat him with your team mates. If you are locked out of the house, and the fish barrel move does not work. it's not even immersion breaking because like, the doctor must have set it up with some automated magic that counts the fish and sends back the money without accounting for the possibility that someone could just take the fish back and send them through again. Cause if he gets a turn and isnt knocked down, he will turn into a demon, if he is stunned and gets a turn, gets up he gains 3000 to 4000 armor back, and we dont want that. Walked in, took the first right, dropped an All In on the nurse whose dialogue has something about a small 3rd arm in her clothes, crit, insta kill no combat. First tip, open the barter menu with him while talking to him, but prior to fighting (unless he is still hostile on sight). If you have Lohse in your party (dismissing her will only result in the Doctor refusing to speak to you), there will be no option for the Doctor to offer you a contract for some reason. There are a few ways. Then attacked the nurse in that room rather than approaching the doctor at all. Learn the name of The Doctor from the Spirit of Ancestor Tree. You can find the Doctor in the 'Black House' in the northeast. Now After the Nurses Are Dead, Now to Deal with the Doctor, Divinity: Original Sin 2 Difficulty Modes Guide, Divinity: Original Sin 2 Beginner Tips to Fight Guide (Mobility as Priority 1), Divinity: Original Sin 2 Definitive Eternal Artefacts Guide (Where to Find Them), Divinity: Original Sin 2 Beast / Fane Honour Build Eternal Knights, Divinity: Original Sin 2 Tips and Tricks for Getting Started, Divinity: Original Sin 2 Unique Items in the Reapers Coast. This battle is way too BS. Killed rest of the demons with ease. I play on normal difficulty, but I am more like a casual player, do not like to min/max, I like to make the chars as I imagine them, not build them as it is optimal. If you picked up the "Voidwoken Fish Exchange" scroll from the Fishworks Cellar in Driftwood or Basatan's corpse back on Bloodmoon Island (Act 2), you place a teleporter pyramid inside the barrel, then use the scroll and cast it on the barrel to transport its contents inside the house. This took awhile as the doctor had unbelievably huge amounts of armor. I did not find Jahan in the cellar/basement. In my fourth playthrough i decided to work with him at the end, but only to see whats happening if you do so. There are now several ways to progress this quest in Arx. I used 2 Mind Maggot grenades, keeping 2 Nemesis charmed for about 6 rounds. There are . Kill them and you'll get an invitation to see him. I'm not sure if the XP gain was nerfed in DE (which is the one I played) but 1.5+mil for all this, nah, completely wrong. According to this page, the nurses alone should have been 899k, and I dispatched them while one character was speaking to the doctor. He's dead. 2H guy uses bone cage, gets about 18K+ armor from all the bodies, uses teleport pyramid, and hits the doctor with Overpower. Dont want to extinguish all those souls? Go to the front door, your hunting will be clear for your enemy, whom will being seeing how their evil little friends will die, one by one, meanwhile the rest of them only can see the show.SECOND. Adramahlihk pretty much burned the whole house at the first turn and Lohse stood in the fire returns tons of fire magic. ._1QwShihKKlyRXyQSlqYaWW{height:16px;width:16px;vertical-align:bottom}._2X6EB3ZhEeXCh1eIVA64XM{margin-left:3px}._1jNPl3YUk6zbpLWdjaJT1r{font-size:12px;font-weight:500;line-height:16px;border-radius:2px;display:inline-block;margin-right:5px;overflow:hidden;text-overflow:ellipsis;vertical-align:text-bottom;white-space:pre;word-break:normal;padding:0 4px}._1jNPl3YUk6zbpLWdjaJT1r._39BEcWjOlYi1QGcJil6-yl{padding:0}._2hSecp_zkPm_s5ddV2htoj{font-size:12px;font-weight:500;line-height:16px;border-radius:2px;display:inline-block;margin-right:5px;overflow:hidden;text-overflow:ellipsis;vertical-align:text-bottom;white-space:pre;word-break:normal;margin-left:0;padding:0 4px}._2hSecp_zkPm_s5ddV2htoj._39BEcWjOlYi1QGcJil6-yl{padding:0}._1wzhGvvafQFOWAyA157okr{font-size:12px;font-weight:500;line-height:16px;border-radius:2px;margin-right:5px;overflow:hidden;text-overflow:ellipsis;vertical-align:text-bottom;white-space:pre;word-break:normal;box-sizing:border-box;line-height:14px;padding:0 4px}._3BPVpMSn5b1vb1yTQuqCRH,._1wzhGvvafQFOWAyA157okr{display:inline-block;height:16px}._3BPVpMSn5b1vb1yTQuqCRH{background-color:var(--newRedditTheme-body);border-radius:50%;margin-left:5px;text-align:center;width:16px}._2cvySYWkqJfynvXFOpNc5L{height:10px;width:10px}.aJrgrewN9C8x1Fusdx4hh{padding:2px 8px}._1wj6zoMi6hRP5YhJ8nXWXE{font-size:14px;padding:7px 12px}._2VqfzH0dZ9dIl3XWNxs42y{border-radius:20px}._2VqfzH0dZ9dIl3XWNxs42y:hover{opacity:.85}._2VqfzH0dZ9dIl3XWNxs42y:active{transform:scale(.95)} Create an account to follow your favorite communities and start taking part in conversations. .c_dVyWK3BXRxSN3ULLJ_t{border-radius:4px 4px 0 0;height:34px;left:0;position:absolute;right:0;top:0}._1OQL3FCA9BfgI57ghHHgV3{-ms-flex-align:center;align-items:center;display:-ms-flexbox;display:flex;-ms-flex-pack:start;justify-content:flex-start;margin-top:32px}._1OQL3FCA9BfgI57ghHHgV3 ._33jgwegeMTJ-FJaaHMeOjV{border-radius:9001px;height:32px;width:32px}._1OQL3FCA9BfgI57ghHHgV3 ._1wQQNkVR4qNpQCzA19X4B6{height:16px;margin-left:8px;width:200px}._39IvqNe6cqNVXcMFxFWFxx{display:-ms-flexbox;display:flex;margin:12px 0}._39IvqNe6cqNVXcMFxFWFxx ._29TSdL_ZMpyzfQ_bfdcBSc{-ms-flex:1;flex:1}._39IvqNe6cqNVXcMFxFWFxx .JEV9fXVlt_7DgH-zLepBH{height:18px;width:50px}._39IvqNe6cqNVXcMFxFWFxx ._3YCOmnWpGeRBW_Psd5WMPR{height:12px;margin-top:4px;width:60px}._2iO5zt81CSiYhWRF9WylyN{height:18px;margin-bottom:4px}._2iO5zt81CSiYhWRF9WylyN._2E9u5XvlGwlpnzki78vasG{width:230px}._2iO5zt81CSiYhWRF9WylyN.fDElwzn43eJToKzSCkejE{width:100%}._2iO5zt81CSiYhWRF9WylyN._2kNB7LAYYqYdyS85f8pqfi{width:250px}._2iO5zt81CSiYhWRF9WylyN._1XmngqAPKZO_1lDBwcQrR7{width:120px}._3XbVvl-zJDbcDeEdSgxV4_{border-radius:4px;height:32px;margin-top:16px;width:100%}._2hgXdc8jVQaXYAXvnqEyED{animation:_3XkHjK4wMgxtjzC1TvoXrb 1.5s ease infinite;background:linear-gradient(90deg,var(--newCommunityTheme-field),var(--newCommunityTheme-inactive),var(--newCommunityTheme-field));background-size:200%}._1KWSZXqSM_BLhBzkPyJFGR{background-color:var(--newCommunityTheme-widgetColors-sidebarWidgetBackgroundColor);border-radius:4px;padding:12px;position:relative;width:auto} )I killed all the nurses before attacking Adramahlihk because they are just annoying and die fast - I dont know if it would make much of a difference - by teleporting them, turning them to chickens and bribing them with money to prevent fighting near Adramahlihk.Before the fight, I also gave Lohses blood to Adramahlihk after making a pact with him and stole back the blood vial and other stuff with Sebille, just for some XP points.I used 30 dead bodies found near the "Arx - City Square" waypoint with the "Bone Cage" spell to increase Ifans armor to about 19908 points.Adramahlihk (aka the Doctor) has about 11120 armor points.If you think that teleporting before a fight is cheating, you can teleport the 30 dead bodies from the waypoint all the way inside his house, but its WAY too slow.Instead, just bundle up the 30 dead bodies near your character while he is in the Arx City Square, that has the "Overpower" skill and make him use "Bone Cage" just after Lohse attacks the Doctor and start a fight. uw . 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Not sure if this is mentioned before and contains spoilers: Finishing the game without killing the doctor and having Loshe alive gives a special ending (yes end-ing). For Max EXP: 1. After defeating Braccus Rex in Lucian's Crypt, the doctor will appear (killing Lucian and Dallis if they are still alive) and ask you to honor the contract. Just posting this to help out with this quest regarding the guide: Malady + teleporting to the demon plane will only happen if Lohse is in your party, same with Jahan in the jail in the prison, this is all part from the Lohse character questline. Speaking to her will cause the demon to take over Lohse and attack Saheila. As the dialogue ended and the doctor shapechange into its demonic forn and summoned all his minions, I teleported him straight next to my other party members. Overpower Overpover is needed to strip The Doctor from his armor. You can in der Folge Keep the leg and give it to Kniles the Flenser later, to avoid fighting him. Engage in combat with the Doctor without the added worry of him charming Lohse and using his skill of invincibility. Remeber to fight with him at the corpse room and close the door that connects with the bunk beds to prevent range attacks form the other enemies.FOURHT. ._12xlue8dQ1odPw1J81FIGQ{display:inline-block;vertical-align:middle} Powered by UBB.threads PHP Forum Software 7.7.5. If you read notes in the Fishworks area back in Driftwood and/or talked to the people there, you will learn that the Black House buys Void-tainted fish periodically from messengers, using a signal to tell them it's ready. 19,400 XP if the Doctor offers the contract. On DE, the three encounters will not trigger if you have pursued the other quest lines, locking you out of this XP. Fastly crafting a Potion of Strong Will and using it in the fight, the demon did nothing but trying to charme her. The elven spirit gave me awards but I didn't encounter any demons at Kemm's garden and Consulate. After killing the Doctor went back to the cellar, still never found Jahan. Still, whatever the case may be, you can unlock the magically locked cabinets in the lower area here and loot various unique items such as the Lord Ruaney and Kvyn's armor sets. You can attack him before speaking to him, that way you can easily kill him without him transforming. I went everywhere, including going around back and entering via the barrel, then coming up through the small cave and prison. You may have to pay off some of the merchants again for attitude depending on how far you are from them when he dies but money isn't really an issue in act 4 anyway. Otherwise, if Lohse was never in your party, you can choose to sign a contract with the doctor, which will change the ending as listed below. Also, if you do not kill him on the first turn, he will transform into his true form, the demon Adramahlikh. Sebille has a really nice romance moment when you are about to deal with her Master, but if you don&39;t skip through Malady&39;s dialogue and talk to Sebille IMMEDIATELY after you start Act 3, you can miss out and Sebille will be lost forever unless you use a workaround for the master fight.. Tarquin asks you to investigate his family grave and get something for him. At this time you can teleport the doctor, while still in conversation onto the bench in the main hall just outside his office. Let Lohse talk to Saheila and stand on the Sahelia's side. I killed The Advocate and I get attacked a lot.. Green Tea > Apotheosis > Adrenaline > jump into central position > aero or geo source and 0SP/3AP skills > Skin Graft > Adrenaline > repeat damage, nothing survives. If you do that, even doctor's entering to combat will be dismissing. No fight, no alarm. Killing the doctor outside his transformation gives XP. You may also choose to complete Lohse's epilogue beforehand if she is a recruited character, and is recommended you do so if you feel you cannot beat The Doctor without Lohse as a playable character, as she will be permanently removed from the party unless her epilogue is completed first. 26,000 XP Exploration XP for entering the Black House. For me, the easiest way to keep Lohse from being possessed during the "no candles" Doctor fight was just to strip off her armor and kill her at the start of the fight, and only resurrect her if the boss is dead/almost dead. I found the box that is the bomb in the room next to the doctor though). Finished in 3 turns, Lohse solo Adramahlihk. Can you fight the doctor without Lohse? You can also head inside the Black House through the front door. botanical garden mississauga. default difficulty party: custom human, red prince, beast, fane tactician party: custom elf, fane I did not find malady waiting outside, I had to go in on my own. I reneged on the pack by using my rogue. 8. Can you beat Adramahlihk? Didn't find Jahan in the basement, so I guess that part is ****ed now. If the door opens you will gain 96,950 XP. Recipes. I was supermad cuz i thought i messed up all my ways to enter, got kicked out and destroyed the barrel. .LalRrQILNjt65y-p-QlWH{fill:var(--newRedditTheme-actionIcon);height:18px;width:18px}.LalRrQILNjt65y-p-QlWH rect{stroke:var(--newRedditTheme-metaText)}._3J2-xIxxxP9ISzeLWCOUVc{height:18px}.FyLpt0kIWG1bTDWZ8HIL1{margin-top:4px}._2ntJEAiwKXBGvxrJiqxx_2,._1SqBC7PQ5dMOdF0MhPIkA8{vertical-align:middle}._1SqBC7PQ5dMOdF0MhPIkA8{-ms-flex-align:center;align-items:center;display:-ms-inline-flexbox;display:inline-flex;-ms-flex-direction:row;flex-direction:row;-ms-flex-pack:center;justify-content:center} Trata-se de reviso sistemtica de estudos publicados em qualquer idioma em 2020. Its a fantastic bit of animation to find in a game. If Lohse is not in the party, you won't see Malady when you reach the mansion, so no candles happening and the Doctor will be full demon when engaged in fight. Hope this helps. . (I saw that other guys had the same idea - there was no lava around to move to his house and teleport him into lava, so "Bone Cage" and a lot of bodies was just as good, if not better because the bodies were already piled up. Teleport the doctor in the room with the doors barricaded and he will never leave the room for the entire fight since his attacks can't damage the items blocking the way. His AOE attacks couldn't kill any of my characters surprisingly,even without using any potions. Finish both quests for maximum XP gain. Not sure what happened, but I definitely didn't get the full ~2M XP for some reason, because I needed less than that to level up and I still need 1.5M now. If you do not have Lohse in your party, then you can choose to sign a contract with the doctor, listed below. Delay everyones turn that isnt the character with Bone Cage. All rights reserved. You strip doctors physical armour to nothing, then reactive amour hits him with about 8k damage. Loot the magically locked, trapped, ornate chest before you leave! Once you open the front door, with your party out of the house, use a teleport speel to bring him at the center of your party and oviously, kill him. After that, if you still struggle to kill him (I'm talking tactician level, no candles snuffed), just remember two of the most broken buffs in the game : Lady Kemmf brewed green tea (-2 ap cost to all actions for 3 turns) and scroll of apotheosis. How I did this on tactician when malady didn't show up: 1. teleport and take out peripheral nurses one after another then disengage 2. lure enemies to lobby, torturer-entangle to delay the doctor, kill/charm others 3. use summons to block the lobby chock point, keep the doctor behind the door 4. hit and run to wear down the physical amour then chain-stun to death, In definitive edition the weakened form looks pretty weak, like 5~8k armor and 3.5k hp or so, and resistances between -50% and 0. I had snuffed out the thousand candles. Just drop some oil under hi to slow him down and then cast a fire spell to light him up and start combat. It is recommended to do the School, Consulate and Gardens encounters before the other main quests, especially before advancing into the Isbeil or Vault quests. So proud of all the work you've put into the practice and continuing to become the best. Now just kill every Nurse in the house, this should be relatively easy, as they dont have much health, armor nor damage. Honestly, it was a bit weird and dry. For example, if you are cruel to an NPC, Everyone here talking about strats I've never heard before, meanwhile I broke the chair he was sitting on while he was talking with Lohse so he was knocked down, and got a free first turn, which I 2 shot him in his human form (oops). 149,850 XP (74,925 XP DE Edition) for killing each of the Nemesis monsters, for a total of 599,400XP. Quest seems to completed but I feel like I left lot of story behind. There should have been some more interaction with him which could make the player question it all more. Engage in combat with the Doctor without the added worry of him charming Lohse and using his skill of invincibility. I never player with Lohse, so no fight was triggerd and the doctor just kicked me out when I refused the contract. 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