Other courses attended include the U.S. Army Airborne School, Air Assault School, Combative Level 2, Master Resiliency Trainers Course, Battle Staff Course, First Sergeants Course, and the United States Army Force-Management Course. I was surprised at the gate when I was saluted by the gate personnel. single time. It was advanced pay so to speak. (2) If the commander of a headquarters and headquarters element dies, becomes disabled, retires, is reassigned, or is temporarily absent, the senior regularly assigned Army Soldier of the particular headquarters and headquarters element who performs duties within the element will assume command. Rrrrr matey, were be that 3rd Lieutenant. One might argue that a cadet who is SMP, simultaneous membership program, would be regularly assigned. Yet I would not want a Year 1 WP cadet in charge of a company. CSM Craven has also earned the German, Chilean, and Australian Parachutist badges and is a member of the Prestigious Sergeant Audie Murphy Club. When I contracted under the SMP I was administratively promoted to the rank and pay grade of E-5 ( I had served two years previously in the Army Reserve as a junior enlisted 11B). This article reminded me of something that raised a question for me after I received my commission and that had to do with LTs saluting each other. Point is that one never knows what lies down the road so I try to treat everyone with respect regardless of their rank or position. They are everywhere and plugged into everything. The Modern War Institute does not screen articles to fit a particular editorial agenda, nor endorse or advocate material that is published. I was at Camp Buckner in 1989 as my Bn (2/502d, 101st ABN) was slated to train yearlings. Even if that enlisted man is the Sgt Maj of the Army. It can be a very valuable and rewarding experience if done right and an unfortunate waste of time for the CDT and unit if its not. Her favorite moments in uniform include singing for the President of the United States at a West Point Graduation, singing the National Anthem at a New England Patriots game, and singing with The Roots on NBCs The Tonight Show with Jimmy Fallon. Sergeant Major Schlegel earned his Black Belt in Lean Six Sigma (Process Improvement) in 2016, and is actively involved in building the process improvement community at West Point. It is a chain of command situation. Plus, it's not typically possible for a Cadet to be a " regularly assigned member" of any unit other than their school unit. Something I wish I knew 50 years ago. Dont demand respect earn it. "The purpose of West Point, therefore, is not to act as a glorified drill sergeant but to lay the foundation upon which a career in growth of military knowledge can be based and to accompany it by two indispensable additions; first, such a general education as educated . If you run a command climate where you relegate your NCOs to small picture things, you will be a small picture unit and your good NCOs will find their way out of your unit and you will be left with small picture, tunnel vision type folks such as those that you describe. Now, that is a perfect resolution. I am a cadet and am military police and drill with them as well. NEW! Mids rank between W-1 and W-2 last time I had occasion to check. We promise not to send you more than one email a week! Assumption of command under these conditions is announced per paragraph 2-5. Haha. Cadets were not entitled to receive salutes from enlisted personnel. They aren't " in the pipeline" yet regarding training , experience or anything else yet. CDT military IDs show geneva convention status 3. They're inchoate officers. Maj. Michael A. Crosby, left, bears the colors of Army Futures Command, as General Mark Milley, 23rd Secretary of the Army Mark Esper, and General John M. Murray unfurl the colors on 24 August 2018, in Austin, Texas A command sergeant major ( CSM) is a non-commissioned rank and position of office in the United States Army. You see there is a important reason that the strap be properly secured to the six foot ground rod driven into the ground. Mr. Erik D. Mitchell assumed the position of Deputy to the Garrison Commander, USAG West Point (IMCOM Directorate - Training), on December 20, 2020. I would argue that the NCO/CO rivalries have started as a result of more modern times as compared to past wars and generations and honestly it should stop. Eight cadet-athletes were selected to leadership positions and will assume their duties Aug. 10. A straight up lie from a boy who thinks book smarts makes him am expert in my mos. Cadet you are not a cadet when in you ng or reserve unit. I was now an active duty Captain with a right shoulder patch ( a big deal in those days ) and a couple of combat medals on my chest ( not bragging but including because of the story ). As for me, while a SNCO would in general be qualified to succeed a LT as platoon leader, any such succession would need to be limited to a short term basis. Interestingly, when a graduating cadet received his commission, (there were no females in the cadet corps in those days), his commission was backdated 15 months to the date he entered the cadet program, giving him a lead on promotion to first lieutenant. Providing innovative solutions and discoveries through international collaborations with leading academic departments, research centers, and industry. Mr. Mitchell is a licensed Professional Engineer and a Level III Certified Acquisitions Professional. Paras 2-9 and 2-10, AR 600-20 further reinforce Scott Faiths important points here. Still though, the cadet might be assigned to the unit based on the Modified Table of Organization and Equipment (MTO) to a non cadet billet. (Contracted ROTC cadets are MS III and MS IV, overwhelmingly and predominantly.) I was an Air Force Aviation Cadet during the late 1950's. Your attitude will get you relegated to a Quonset hut in BFE. I believe my words only carried weight because I've already been in the Army for 10 years and the Senior cadre knew this (I didn't get in any trouble). A little ancient cadet history for anyone interested. The Cadet wr had wrote all of us NCOs that trained him, some. West Point welcomed Command Sargent Major Michael J. Coffey as the 21st U.S. Military Academy senior enlisted leader during an assumption of responsibility ceremony Monday, August 17, 2020. Master Sergeant Brandie Lane of Columbia, South Carolina, joined the West Point Band in October of 2010. Command Sergeant Major Michel R. Fraser was born in Wilmington, North Carolina and raised in Conway, South Carolina. Eventually reclassifying as a MLRS/HIMARS Fire Direction Specialist, he would serve the Field Artillery Community in many positions ranging from Teams Chief to DIVARTY Command Sergeant Major. indicating superior social status. A Gunny at 29Palms RTAMS and a Chief at NASA/AMES CA are among my most treasured mentors. In the military, XO refers to a second-in-command officer, or more generally, an executive officer.The XO typically reports to the commanding officer, who also goes by the names the first lieutenant and the number one. She has served as Operations NCOIC since 2017. Very nice endorsements. Whoever came up with this interpretation needs to review deeper. When contracted you take the officer version of the oath as well. Prior to his assignment at West Point, Sergeant Major Schlegel was assigned to the U.S. Army Medical Command Band at Fort Sam Houston, Texas, where he served as the personnel and administration branch chief and performed as principal trumpet in the Concert Band, Jazz Combo, and Rock Band. However, I don't see the wisdom of placing a SNCO in command of a company ahead of a cadet. Death, disability, retirement, reassignment, or absence of the commander. Simple professionalism is another, Respect the service, respect the service member. USAG Yuma Proving Grounds, n Principal Engineer Colorado We are officers in training and when we get a chanve at a leadership role with the guidance of the NCOs it will ensure our success as officers. The best way to train cadets to be officers that their soldiers will look up to and their NCOs will respect is to treat them the way you want them to act. Its cadets like you that become true leaders, because you have put your ego in check and will EARN the respect of your troops! Everybody read it. This should not turn into a them vs us type of debate. Upon the successful completion of flight school cadets received their flight wings and were commissioned as second lieutenants and incured an additional four year service commitment. MAJOR GENERAL MAXWELL D. TAYLOR Superintendent, U. S. Military Academy . As that was a long time ago, my memories of the experience were that it was the best and the worst of both worlds. Cadets were sons of the upper class and were, due to social norms, afforded gentlemans status. America's Oldest U.S. Army Garrison & Home to the United States Military Academy Mr. Erik D. Mitchell assumed the position of Deputy to the Garrison Commander, USAG West Point (IMCOM Directorate. Am forwarding this to my son. Share mutual respect and work together is the name of the game. The garrison supports a base population of over 16,500 Soldiers, Civilians, Family Members, and Contractors as well as supporting over 40,000 retirees in the area. But only a complete cadidiot would get his or her cadet rank confused with an NCOs authority and influence. From the senior officer perspective we were largely ignored. Sorry- from a legal perspective there is a lot not discussed. Oh please. Somewhat surprised by this, and thinking back to my own experiences in CTLT, I asked why he felt that way. I think that it would be a huge step in the right direction for the ROTC BNs to send their CDTs to their gaining units with an LOI/MOU pinned to their chest (Im sure ROTC has probably published guidance along those lines, but Ive never seen it) so that those commanders will have some idea what to do with those CDTs when they get there. CSM Cravens military education includes all levels of the Non-Commissioned Officer Education System culminating with the United States Army Sergeants Major Academy. After just two years of military service, Poe attained the rank of Sergeant Major for Artillery, the highest enlisted rank open to him. It made it very difficult to operate as an NCO under his command. First off the reg says regularly assigned personnel, which the Cadets are not. If you think a fellow West Point graduate is a great leader, see how she/he behaves after having a soldier vaporized by an RPG in front of him. We always give you a chance before we let you sink your career all on your own. The NCO referred me to AR 600-20, Army Command Policy, which makes it pretty clear that West Point cadets do, in fact, outrank Army NCOs. In my case I was lucky and had a CO who was ROTC cadre and knew what to do with me. . We only go to attention for officers. Dont take it as a sign of disrespect however. The two year enlistment term allowed for cadets who had to temporarily halt training because of illness or injury. One of these ignorant academy types was my battalion XO at Fort Ord. I had a CO at one point who absolutely had a genuine dislike for NCOs and believed them to be useless. Corps of Cadets has been announced and includes a strong group of varsity athletes. Officers, commissioned warrant officers, midshipmen, cadets, candidates are all affordedofficer status. In respect of ROTC, the R stipulates that only a contracted cadet in ROTC fits the definition I presented. Throughout his career as both an Airman and Civilian, he has served in numerous assignments at locations: n Chief, Public Works Fort Eustis, VA ). The rank of a cadet is for protocol issues alone such as where to stand in a receiving line or where to sit at a formal dinner. Corporal: Sergeant: Platoon Sergeant: Color sergeant: left sleeve only: First Sergeant: Regimental and Battalion Sergeant Major: Brigade Command Sergeant Major: Lieutenant: Color Lieutenant: Company Commander: Battalion Adjutant: Battalion . Salute were means of communication. Actually, cadets do fill positions in the National Guard in the Simultaneous Membership Program and can be assigned to an O-2 slot for a period of years. Its not so much AR, but UCMJ. While in Iraq in 2003-04 we got a batch of 12 west pointer kids and more than half were momma's boys and short of a huge shift in their personality and ideals, they're too far gone in the head to be respectable leaders. It would be a very foolish cadet who started issuing orders to a senior sergeant. My friend confirmed that Navy Aviation Cadets rated salutes by enlisted personnel, at least they did at that time. Within the cadet corps there was a rank structure and cadets saluted other cadets with rank above theirs. For example, if a division headquarters and headquarters company commander is temporarily absent, the executive officer as the senior regularly assigned Army Soldier who performs duties within the headquarters company would assume command and not the division commander. Hooah!!! Ive been on both sides of the fence. Things are changing around you and you're failing to adapt. Thus, I suspect a warrant officer's wife is addressed a "wifady" (wife/lady.) West Point Staff Deputy Chief of Staff: Adjutant General (G1) Deputy Chief of Staff: Strategic Plans and Assessment (G5) Chief Information Officer/G6 Deputy Chief of Staff: Operations, Plans, Training, Force Protection, International Affairs and Security Cooperation Inspector General Office of Diversity, Inclusion and Equal Opportunity SHARP Office I say these factors because while the SNCO is focused on the lugnut and wheel base the Year 3 cadet is looking at the whole of the Humvee and as much of the landscape around it as he can scope out. You have to look at national guard and the reserves. We get people whose ideals are from left field and seem to think the Army is their play ground. And taken that way. He earned his Bachelor of Music in trumpet performance and music education from Ithaca College in Ithaca, New York. A honorific form of address indicating respect but only for officers under the rank of knight. I wore the Cadet rank insignia of 2LT. I highly doubt any West Point graduate will magically "see the light" after reading my imput on this discussion. The United States Military Academy (USMA), also known metonymically as West Point or simply as Army, is a United States service academy in West Point, New York.It was originally established as a fort, since it sits on strategic high ground overlooking the Hudson River with a scenic view, 50 miles (80 km) north of New York City. After completion of basic training, he attended Advanced Individual Training at Fort Eustis, VA, where he completed the UH-60 Helicopter Repairman course. He previously served as the NCOIC of supply at the U.S. Army School of Music. To this day I credit a lot of the success I had when I went on active duty after I graduated to this great NCO. Youre right, Sergeant, a West Point cadet DOES outrank you. By reg,they can't command or lead troops in the field. He previously served as Music Arranger and NCOIC of Sound, Staging, and Lighting at the 113th Army Band "Dragoons" in Fort Knox, Kentucky. Mr. Mitchell began his professional career in 1994, graduating of the United States Air Force Academy where he was a football letterman. If you've ever been in a doctor's appointment and a medical student was assigned to your doctor, that's about how cadets in CTLT and SMP function. Wonder if each Military Academy Of other branches has the same rule/regulation authority.??? Does the cadet have offiCial orders? Cadets are never saluted. FOOLISH it is for there to be any antagonism between NCOs and cadets, or NCOs and lieutenants. In my experience we rarely see a decent new officer come out of West Point and it's really sad. Is the cadet attached or assigned a leadership position? 2LT Eisenhower, he was a 6' 3" tall man who was assigned to our platoon in 1992. All Army personnel in uniform are required to salute when they meet and recognize persons entitled to the salute. *Back to the story: At first, I let things go and decided someone had to be tough on these kids, but after a while, I couldn't let it roll on. Due to the nature of promotions in the Guard at the time, he was still serving as the XO and was still a 1st LT. when I walked in wearing my Class As. Holds the MOH, four Silver Stars, ten combat ribbons, CIB, is airborne qualified and ex special forces. Master Sergeant Loy Song has played in the Concert Band and Jazz Knights trumpet sections, was a founding member and lead singer of the Benny Havens Band, and is now a member of the Support Staff. Sergeant Major MaryKay Messenger is a native of Newburgh, New York, and a well-known soloist throughout the Hudson Valley region, performing classical, Broadway, jazz, and popular music. You guys are all discussing how the Army does it.. Im AF and In Services(Food Svc) i was assigned an Academy Cadet to teach him what i was responsible for as a SSGT. The definition is enhanced further by stating Soldiers "present for duty." Appreciate your reply. West Point grads are elite and you know it, Ask any enlisted person and they will tell you that westpointers are arrogant and on need of a lot of training. A Leaders Guide to Conducting Research Staff Rides, Its a Bird, Its a Plane, Its. Long story short: Years of hands-on experience trumps reading an instruction manual, This applies in every situation and every single time. Thats what the reg says, but how does that work in practice? Officers and NCO's must realize alike that, they way you treat your future Officers (NCO's case) and the way you treat your subordinates (Officers case) will dictate how the military can and will be run in the future. Almost, like her husband, an officer and a lady. IQ averages are around 120 for most Grunts and for those that don't track demographics, that's a huge jump from national averages. I hope this sheds some light on things. Your comment reeks of arrogance. He is actually correct, SMP cadets serve in ARNG units in the rank of cadet. Has the. Thank you! document.getElementById( "ak_js_1" ).setAttribute( "value", ( new Date() ).getTime() ); The articles and other content which appear on the Modern War Institute website are unofficial expressions of opinion. Her accolades include a Grammy Award for "Best Engineered Album - Classical," engineering and mastering credits on multiple Grammy-nominated albums, an "Award of Excellence" from the Audio Engineering High Resolution Recording Competition, and a Downbeat Award for "Best Engineering for a Live Recording." For lack of official guidance I was assigned as an assistant platoon leader in an Armored Cavalry Company and my platoon sergeant was a former Navy Seal with combat tours in Vietnam (along with other unmentionable places during that conflict). A wise cadet will be mindful of their position. United States Forces Iraq (USF-I), J-7, n Chief, Engineering Plans and Services Yuma, AZ They always forgot to take the safety bail/pin out of the RPG fuze and the round would just bounce off our Bradleys, lol. In her free time, she enjoys spending time with her husband and two incredible sons. While Deployed with the Corps in support of Operation Inherent Resolve, he also assumed duties as the Combined Joint Task Force (OIR) J-3 Sergeant Major. In addition, CSM Whiteford served two tours at the U.S . I don't mean to take anything away from the Point but my first platoon leader was the finest officer I ever served under. So you are incorrect when you say that Cadets outrank me. 2-8. I wondered how he, as a senior NCO in a highly specialized unit, felt about having cadets around. Technically. I was an enlisted man and my rank at the time of my discharge in the late Summer of 1989 was Sergeant E5. Thanks for subscribing! She earned a Bachelor of Fine Arts in graphic design from the School of Visual Arts in New York City. Command Sergeant Major Glidewell entered the United States Army in July 1981, and completed Basic Training at Fort Jackson, SC. So I suppose we dont salute appointed Officers either? Always seek the minority view of any situation or story! So when would a cadet actually be in charge? DESCRIPTION Twin sisters Cathy and Charlie Kahl enlisted in the Women's Army Corps together, and managed to be stationed together throughout much of their career until they both retired as Command Sergeants Major. In 2003 we never went slower than 55, usually 60 MPH and we never lost anyone. The one group that actually gave us respect and tried to help and mentor us were the senior NCOs. As he worked in our platoon, we all quietly covered for him, especially when he got misoriented now and then (analog land nav isn't simple, especially when mounted) after a few months he was squared away and we taught him our secrets and he never betrayed us. Staff Sergeant Paul Hadwiger, from Kirksville, Missouri, joined the West Point Band in July of 2018. And cadets initiate salutes to any commissioned officer. My NCOs treated me with respect while I was a midshipman, but taught me what it meant. My CTLT with D 1/47th IN (1983) was an amazing experience preparing me to enter an Army in transition, and the esprit de corps and commitment to duty extended from CPT Barber to every member of the command, even their temporary members (a USMA Cadet and me), with especially valuable membership from NCOs in the command. How dare enlisted swine preside over a command position? We're also the one demographic that gives the socialist/communists nightmares because they know they can't take us head on in any manner so they go through the younger people to reach their aims. Other notable assignments include working within the 2/320, United States Military Academy Preparatory School, Simon Center for the Professional Military Ethic. More than likely you are just privileged. Are we really saying an NCO could not do that? Be safe out there, use the "recon by fire" method if probing a road and drop to the ground when a frag is near you, the explosion goes up and away. $9.99 + $6.85 shipping . Greetings from West Point and welcome to the Commandant's Corner. Luckily, my trusty CWO officer witness this kid who likes to give orders about something he knows nothing about and showing his outstanding example of a true and morale officer. I felt honored to have him there. Mark C. Quander Brigadier General , US Army 79th Commandant of Cadets Command Sergeant Major Fraser has a daughter, Talia. I retired ten years ago as an 11B SNCO with 26 years in service and a star on my CIB. And if you think islam is a warm and fuzzy religion, you're way off! Scotts writing focuses largely on veterans issues, but he is also a big proponent of Constitutional rights and has a deep interest in politics. Most recently, CSM Craven was the Command Sergeant Major for the 5th Security Force Assistance Brigade (SFAB) at Joint Base Lewis-McChord, Washington. I spent 3 years as a MSG and never saluted a cadet. Served in the regulars from 1983 to 1985, and from 1987 to 1989. Very interesting. This is more or less the Armys summer intern program, where young future officers get hands-on experience as a kind of third lieutenant, under the tutelage of a commissioned officer for three or four weeks. Life 101. *This post originally appeard The Havok Journal * U.S. Army photo by: Mike Strasser/ USMA Public Affairs America's Oldest U.S. Army Garrison & Home to the United States Military Academy Col. Anthony "Tony" J. Bianchi Colonel Anthony J. Bianchi is from Tampa, Florida and was commissioned in the Field. As SNCOs think of this as an opportunity to shape the Os of the future. Technically. First, what an insult to a SNCO that instead of a 1SG with 10 plus years of experience leading soldiers in the absence of officers A Cadet would be next in succession. Cadets saluted officers of all United States uniformed services. I mean, that certainly seemed to be the case at Airborne School back in the day. They assume command until relieved by proper authority except as provided in 2-8c. So I think he had it right. Youre right, Sergeant, a West Point cadet DOES outrank you. That just goes to show that the regular cadets get crapped on and they can't change it. This information was not covered or taught. Two of many subjects I taught E-6 and E-7 were Military Customs and Courtesy, and Uniform. The U.S. Military Academy at West Point's mission is "to educate, train, and inspire the Corps of Cadets so that each graduate is a commissioned leader of character committed to the values of Duty, Honor, Country and prepared for a career of professional excellence and service to the Nation as an officer in the United States Army." *This post originally appeard The Havok Journal*, U.S. Army photo by: Mike Strasser/ USMA Public Affairs, Scott Faithis a veteran of a half-dozen combat deployments and has served in several different Special Operations units over the course of his Army career. -If you are a Soldier and you are still carrying around the trash attitude of the "good ole' days", it is most likely time for you to go. Serving the Rugged Professional", Survivor Outreach Services | Total Army Sponsorship | Safety, Human Resources | Civilian Expeditionary Workforce, U.S. Army Environmental Command | Assistant Secretary of the Army for Installations, Energy & Environment, HOSPITAL - Keller Army Community Hospital, Military Police and Religous Support Personnel, U.S Army MEDDAC- Keller Army Community Hospital, U.S Army DENTAC- West Point Dental Activity, United States Military Academy at West Point, Assistant Secretary of the Army for Installations, Energy & Environment. Sergeant First Class Ehrin Anthony joined the West Point Band in August of 2014. She graduated from Conway High School in 1989. If married his spouse is always addressed a "Lady so and so.". If cadets, during this valuable leadership experience, are not given the chance to act as lieutenants and acting platoon leaders, then the whole CLTC program should be scrapped. A rescinding announcement is required if the temporary assumption of command is for an indefinite period. Knights lifted their helmet to recognize they friends from enemy. The Army is always evolving but power bitches have always been around, we just don't frag them as we used to. They receive paygrade of ~E-5 however they hold a higher position. So our government invested thousands on a lying, dishonest, ill-informed, and immature man child to lead others. Staff Sergeant Taylor is an accomplished composer whose works have been internationally published and performed. Both have an option for Cadets to be apart of a simultaneous membership program. So you are always busy and have something to do. Only W1's, lacking a commission, are excepted from Art. As a CDT, I was generally treated pretty well at my unit, this could have been because I was Mustang Officer in training and a former NCO, and that my CO was part of the cadre at Western Illinois, so she made it a point to assign me to a vacant officer position, in this case kind of a huge assignment as the Maintenance PLT LDR at a MED Truck CO, whereas most units dont even know what to do with a CDT. Prior to joining the West Point Band, Staff Sergeant Rivers interned at Billboard Magazine and Knopf Publishing. The regulations can only go so far in some jobs and situations in our Army and beyond that you need to be resourceful or have friends who are. When I was a 2LT, I always took the fact that Vietnam vets 4-10 years older than I was were saluting me as an obligation to do my best to earn that salute. Adept been officially assigned a position in the chain of command? A very interesting thread. Staff Sergeant Cardone earned her Bachelor of Music, magna cum laude, in . Cadets should know that they must earn respect. And you'll have to deal with the reality that there are better men out there and you may be in over your head but don't blame others for your shortcomings. Interesting because WO1s are appointed by SecDef on behalf of the CinC. Scott Faithis a veteran of a half-dozen combat deployments and has served in several different Special Operations units over the course of his Army career. Sergeant Major Schlegel began his enlisted career in August of 2005. Anyway. And get to know your PBO very well! Technically, they aren't even qualified to fulfill a team leader slot. We are all us. I was one of Cohens blue to gold mustangs in the 90s. It was never the SNCOs, it was always a SSG, SGT, or junior enlisted Soldier disrespecting these cadets (myself included). WEST POINT, NY (Oct. 14, 2016) - The U.S. Army and the U.S . Then again for the same categories who were on rear detachment duties! 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